Marhofn 84.04 - May 2002

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Other Candidates for Change

Binnein Shios (4B)

David Claymore: To my eyes the cairn is not on the highest point, which I believe is about 100 metres away in a NE direction. This was tested with a GPS using satellite triangulation (as opposed to a barometer) which gave a reading 1m higher.

Meall an Tarsaid (9B)

Richard Webb: The 492m south top is obviously lower than the north top (marked 'Cairn' on the map). They are close together and the north one looks much higher from everywhere (this of course means that the south top is higher - it's always the way). But I do expect this summit to move again. Lovely wee hill.

Creag Ruadh (9C)

David Claymore: The top is marked with a trig point, but I thought there were two higher points, one about 100 metres away to the NE and a closer one about 25 metres away to the north. Both these points were 1m above the trig point, all three being checked several times.

Beinn na Feusaige (13B)

Leslie Barrie: Standing at both east and west ends of the summit ridge and training the eyes along the line of old fence posts, on a fine clear August day, the top at the west end (NH090543) appears to be slightly the higher of the two, although it may be something of an optical illusion. Both tops are marked by a small cairn. The eastern cairn sits below a rocky outcrop, which is the 625m spot height on the OS map. Standing atop the outcrop at the east end, the west top still appears higher.

Sleiteachal Mhor (24A)

Leslie Barrie: At or near the 248m spot height there is a small cairn. This however is clearly not the summit as there are several nobbles or bumps a stone's throw away which are definitely higher. It's a case of take your pick which of these is the highest. However, it is my belief that the actual summit should be at NB208186, which is topped by a prominent cairn.

Peel Fell (33)

David Robinson: I suspect that when the OS resurvey the area, Peel Fell will be found to be in Scotland, not England. See photo to help illustrate my view.

Summit of Peel Fell looking north (photo: David Robinson)

Summit of Peel Fell looking north (photo: David Robinson)

Ruardean Hill (38B)

Chris Crocker: I 'climbed' this hill just before the FMD closures. There is no doubt at all that the ground on the other side of the road from the trig is higher, by at least one metre. On the basis that my new (revised 1997) Landranger map shows the trig at SO635139 with height 290m I would give the summit as SO634139 and height 291m.

Firle Beacon (42)

Malcolm Corbett: The tumulus next to the trig must be at least 2m higher than the trig point.

Detling Hill (42)

Chris Crocker: According to my Streetmap printout, the top of this apology for a hill (at TQ804586) is barely on the edge of the 200m contour, implying the possibility of something higher within the contour. On the ground, it was clear that the grid ref is not at the highest point. The exact location of the summit is open to conjecture, but having approached from three directions the best candidates are TQ806868 at the farmhouse (probably just north of the enclosure) and TQ805587, next to a hedge about 100 metres south along the right of way from the A249. The ground between these two points is very flat, but these points may be 1m higher than the 200m contour. Reaching the TQ806868 point unobserved was a bit tricky but there are some trees north of the farmhouse which afford cover. My attempt to explore beyond that point set off some furious barking, so I beat a hasty retreat. The right of way which goes past the trig is completely overplanted with barley or rye - shorts and sandals are not recommended. I have a marginal preference for TQ806586 and would guess the height as 201m.

New Names or Old?

Waun Claerddu (31C)

Alun-Peter Fisher: Waun Claerddu refers to the land on the SE side, draining into the Afon Claerddu. All sides of the summit are pretty damp, but it makes sense that the lattice of streams is called the Waun, meaning bog. The top in general seems to be named Llan Ddu Fawr, the 594m cairn Carnyrhyrddod (which it was on old maps). There is also a 593m trig at SN787699.

Mynydd Twyn-glas (32C)

David Robinson: Mynydd Maen is the collective name for that lump of a hill and is the name by which we knew it when we lived on its flanks. It was also my first Welsh Marilyn (1946).

The Cloud (36)

Rob Woodall: The map produced by the local orienteering club calls the hill Bosley Cloud, not just The Cloud.

Seager Hill (38B)

Alan Dawson: Summit is Sheepcote Hill on OS Explorer map.

Further opinions on these and other names would be welcome.

A'Chaoirnich (6A), the Corbett formerly known as Creag an Loch

A'Chaoirnich (6A), the Corbett formerly known as Creag an Loch

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